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hinotes48
09-07-2005, 05:41 PM
I'm curious- how many here find female smoking to be a turn on, and how many are turned on by the idea of being an ashtray for your Owner? If this is one of your fetishes, did your mother or sister smoke?

I'm not sure I'd ever want to do this for real, but the idea sure is a turn on for me.

hinotes48
09-08-2005, 12:15 AM
And how many have either had a domme burn them with a cigarette or have fantasized about it?

abitbent
09-08-2005, 01:07 AM
It's funny hinotes because i couldn't be farther on the opposite end of that fetish. I know it's a popular one, but to watch a woman smoke is such a complete turn off for me, that it's a hard limit. Seems a little selfish, but i just can't look past it.

I recall the good ol bar hopping days, when i was pretending to be vanilla.. lol.. checking out the local ladies and every once in awhile one would catch my eye. She'd be absolutely stunning to the eye, flawless in every way. The moment she'd light up, i'd look away and never look back.

So i suppose if you and i were serving a Domme who smoked, we'd all get along perfectly! LOL

bent

hinotes48
09-08-2005, 01:05 PM
So i suppose if you and i were serving a Domme who smoked, we'd all get along perfectly! LOL

bent

:D

This system doesn't seem to have a good rolling on the floor laughing icon, but if it did I'd use it...

dumbo
09-12-2005, 03:53 AM
When I discovered fantasy (i.e. masturbation -- age 13) women or girls smoking was quite literally my ONLY turn-on. For years. 27 years of smoking-related fantasies has diminished that fetish for me as has -- in a big way -- the amount of femdom porn that features women smoking on the 'net. Like drug us, I have moved on to more intense humiliation/degradation and femdom fantasies like (e.g. cuckolding, forced-bi, face-slapping, cleaning off used strap-ons, etc.).

Yes, my Mom smoked and I fairly stronly believe it's suconsciously related, although early recognition/use of the fantasy usually involved girls my age.

Yes, I have been used for an ashtray (in public and private), fantasized about ashtray servitude for quite a while before meeting a woman who got turned on by using me as one. It turned me on big-time. Since done it with many women, but none since I left the local S&M scene about six or seven years ago.

mstrcoquette
09-13-2005, 11:35 AM
Its a terrible habit I am aware of, but I find no other drug available to me legally at present that isn't going to get me in jail for having a seed in my car.

Its positively ridiculous some of the laws in this country.

So I smoke for pain and pleasure....
I have even burned myself on occasion
actually quite often
as you already know I am into branding
and would consider myself quite disciplined in the pain department...

smoking is a drug habit
very difficult to lick and I hope to attain to freedom from it at some point, but today is not that day

M Coquette

richardevanslee
09-13-2005, 03:30 PM
I'd like for Alexandra to be able to use me as an ashtray. She'd like to as well.

She doesn't smoke.

So I tried ordering some non-nicotine cigarettes from a couple of places but they never arrived.

If anybody knows of a reliable source please leave a reply here.

Thanks,
Richard

hinotes48
09-13-2005, 10:13 PM
smoking is a drug habit
very difficult to lick and I hope to attain to freedom from it at some point, but today is not that day

M Coquette

M Coquette, my best wishes for success in quiting when the time comes.

I have mixed feelings- on the one hand, it's an hellaciously hard addiction to quit. On the other hand, we demonify those who choose to smoke.

I quit 25+ years ago, and it was one of the hardest things I ever did. One reason I am not sure I want a smoking domination session is because I'm afraid that even after all these years it will trigger a desire to start again.

hinotes48
09-13-2005, 10:17 PM
Yes, I have been used for an ashtray (in public and private), fantasized about ashtray servitude for quite a while before meeting a woman who got turned on by using me as one. It turned me on big-time. Since done it with many women, but none since I left the local S&M scene about six or seven years ago.

Dumbo, if I can ask, are you a smoker? Were you a smoker?

I'm going to be in NY in a month, and I'm considering setting up a session with a Domme. Lots of them offer smoking related activities. The idea of having a woman sit over me and smoke, or "tease" my nipples with a cigarette, is a huge turn on. But no fantasy is worth starting to smoke again, and I'm afraid it will rekindle that urge.

mstrcoquette
09-14-2005, 07:40 AM
what a lovely fetish you all have to be a human ashtray for a lovely Domme...

yes I would love to oblige anyone who wants to be treated thus
it is positively a lovely thought for me ...
I could tease with the lit end ...wow I am getting hot just thinking about it

I especially am fond of chocolate cigars
Oliveros from the dominican

actually any Oliveros cigar is just right for me Platinums, Sweets, Peach, Vanilla, Cinnamon

and it makes such a lovely red hot glow when I drag on it
would make a lovely reaction on your skin getting it close enough to burn...
M. Coquette

hinotes48
09-14-2005, 06:59 PM
Oh, my! Thank you for that thought! :D :D :D :D :D

dumbo
09-15-2005, 09:21 PM
[QUOTE=hinotes48]Dumbo, if I can ask, are you a smoker? Were you a smoker?

I am a non-smoker. I tried it once, one puff, while drunk in a bar, just to say I did it, and I didn't get a buzz, so I've never really felt nicotine's physiological effects (I'm already addicted to femdom porn, silly!). But what that one puff did was take away part of the fantasy/mystification of smoking women, sort of knocked away the taboo somewhat (i.e. Brought me to think, what's the big deal?).

If you think there's even a chance you might resume smoking after the session, I would advise against it. YMMV, but is it really worth the risk of getting re-addicted just for a one- or two-hour sexual high?

ct1900
03-11-2006, 07:13 PM
I have served as an ashtray many times. Wonderful objectification.

eolfeci
03-12-2006, 02:51 AM
I'd like for Alexandra to be able to use me as an ashtray. She'd like to as well.

She doesn't smoke.

So I tried ordering some non-nicotine cigarettes from a couple of places but they never arrived.

If anybody knows of a reliable source please leave a reply here.

Thanks,
Richard

There exists mint-flavored cigarettes that are surprisingly gentle on the throat. So it would be my guess that Alexandra would tolerate them (i.e. not cough senseless).

They are probably easier to find than those nicotineless ones. Unfortunately I can't give you a precise brand name. I tried them when I was a kid and have no recolection of how we got a hold of them either.

eolfeci
03-12-2006, 02:59 AM
Related question: Is it customary practice for human ashtrays to swallow the ash?

ct1900
03-13-2006, 03:56 PM
I swallow the ash, my tongue is used to stubb it out, I swallow the spent butt, everything.

zerocooll9
03-15-2006, 10:45 PM
i have had the thought, and tried it once and it was nice. my Mistress doesn't smoke nor would i ever ask Her to do that. In fact i love Her to much to ever see Her smoke. So i'll never have that again.

Mule
03-27-2006, 07:29 AM
I swallow the ash, my tongue is used to stubb it out, I swallow the spent butt, everything.
Niccotine is a poison. It is used in many parts of the world as an insecticide.

There are two main types of incecticides: nerve agents (bugs breathe through their exoskeletons) and ingested poisons. Niccotine is of the latter type. It is most effective on bugs that chew on leaves.

I don't know for sure if there is a health hazard associated with niccotine ingestion by humans, but it is something worth looking into. I am not too sure how safe and sane the practice is.

Mule
03-27-2006, 07:46 AM
To answer the original question: the only smoker in my family was my dad and he smoked cigars.

Mrs. Mule is a smoker (as a nurse, you think she'd know better) -- she was not when I first met her. I became a smoker too after we met, but managed to give it up.

Smoking is a major turn-off for me. Mrs. Mule accomodates my loss of tolerance for cigarette smoke by not smoking in the house (she likes hanging out on the deck -- and I like hanging out with her).

Once a week, she and her smoking girlfriends go out to dinner. I enjoy the company of these women, but can't sit at the same table with them when they smoke. So it's strictly a "girls' night out."

Mrs. Mule will even brush her teeth prior to our lovemaking.

I know that I cannot convince Mrs. Mule to stop smoking unless she wants to. Neither do I support her habit. For example, I will not buy cigarettes for her.

So can a smoker and non-smoker work it out? Of course they can.

For those who wish to point out that it seems that Mrs. Mule is doing most of the accomodating, you are absolutely correct. I never claimed to be a *good* sub.

imrodhull
01-08-2007, 12:07 PM
In my 'vanilla' life I do not find it a turn on, in fact I used to avoid smokers and if I were single again and looking for a relationship I think I would still avoid smokers. However I do find the site of a dominant woman smoking very alluring now. It's a more recent turn on for me but I would quite like to be used as an ashtray whilst my Mistress smoked. In reality, I don't enjoy pain (burns etc) and would probably hate the taste but in my head.... it's delicious.

imrodhull
01-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Sorry, should have added that none of my female relatives smoked, at least not in front of me when I was young. My interest has started in the last 5 or 6 years probably from viewing so many superior looking women smoking on various femdom sites

richardevanslee
01-09-2007, 03:41 PM
In reality, I don't enjoy pain (burns etc) and would probably hate the taste but in my head.... it's delicious.

I think most people limit it to taking the ashes.

After much searching I finally found some nicotine free cigarettes so we'll be giving this scenario a try fairly soon.

Richard

imrodhull
01-10-2007, 06:38 AM
Do most people prefer cigarettes to cigars? Personally I like to see cigarettes but some dommes really suit a cigar. Any difference being an ashtray for a cigar instead of cigarette?

richardevanslee
01-10-2007, 09:49 AM
For some reason I have the impression that human ashtray play has always been more popular in Britain than America - but can't really justify it.

I know lots of people who smoke cigarettes but no one who smokes cigars. (I've tried cigars a few times in my life but found them unendurably harsh.)

I do agree that a long slender cigar in a woman's hand can look sexy though.

Richard

Ragnarok
03-06-2007, 10:03 AM
I've got a smoking fetish so when i see a woman light up its an instant turn on!

I've never been into the whole human ashtray or cigarette burns.To me seeing a woman smoke makes them look even more sexy.I've had this kink since i was a kid,and yes my mum does smoke.I hate smoking myself though just like women doing it. :/

richardevanslee
03-13-2007, 04:11 PM
They are probably easier to find than those nicotineless ones. Unfortunately I can't give you a precise brand name. I tried them when I was a kid and have no recolection of how we got a hold of them either.

Many things have vanished because of the costs of coping with regulations.

I did finally find some tobacco free cigarettes on eBay.

Singer
11-25-2008, 02:09 PM
So many of these fetishes and compulsions are seared or burned into the psyche at a young age, and are related to masturbation and discovery. in simplistic terms there were "good girls & bad girls." Of course in reality all girls are good but in the submissive mind in a heightened state of arousal only bad girls are really exciting. And they smoke! So the attraction develops and takes root. What submissive isn't excited by the woman who dismissingly blows smoke in his face and then laughs because he is so hooked he will just sit there and gaze adoringly into her face. Even the bright red lipstick marks on filthy cigarette butts illicit a special recognition of his own dark attraction to her seduction.